highs and lows, which they want to distinguish from faith entirely. For example, J. I. Packer wrote, “Faith is a relationship of recognition, credence, and trust and is not in itself an experience.”5 I’ll admit that I don’t like that sentence, though J. I. Packer is one of my heroes!6 I doubt we would have had a substantive difference if we clarified the word experience. When I use the word experience, I don’t have in mind any particular intensity of emotion, or any particular height of mental clarity,