position. "Brother Joe," I began, "you obviously believe that we can lose our salvation if we sin." Confidently, he replied, "Yes, I do." "What, then," I continued, "is your understanding of Ephesians 2:8-9 that states a believer is saved by grace and not works?" The next ten minutes were like a Wild West shootout, with Bible verses flying like bullets. I would shoot a verse at Joe, and he would fire back at me with another. The others in the group sat speechless as I, a young believer, questioned the seasoned