But something happened during this long coach ride across Europe that would change the course of Wilberforce’s life forever. At some point the subject of a certain evangelical pastor came up, and Wilberforce offhandedly remarked that the man in question “took things a bit too far.”8 Like everyone else in his circles, Wilberforce thought that anyone who took God very seriously went too far. But Milner did not agree, staunchly replying, “Not a bit.”9 Was Milner more serious about faith than Wilberforce