(to retain attendance), not training them to become disciples. Apologist Frank Turek has astutely noted that “what we win them with we win them to.”24 Ed Stetzer has remarked that “too many youth groups are holding tanks with pizza.”25 The sad truth is that in many cases, we’ve won our kids to fun, friends, and pizza, but not necessarily to Christ. Steve Cable points out in Cultural Captives that “the culture itself has become just as corrosive